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Good Times Good Times said:
Well, I don't know if I would consider bringing in a Nazi or ISIS flag as an equivalent to a peaceful protest.....that's quite a way down the spectrum. So I definitely think the line is past kneeling but before a Nazi or ISIS flag. They're just different things. Not everyone will stop buying tickets over a peaceful protest but they WILL (and RIGHTFULLY SO) if you bring in a Nazi or ISIS flag.

A peaceful protest is not equivalent to a fascist governmental regime or islamic terrorist ideology.

I see your point though Greg, I honestly do.

My opinion is.........I think their cause is well intentioned but I don't think it's properly executed. Certainly with some thought a better strategy could have been formed.....................BUT, the conversation is being had.

This is one of those things that would be best discussed in person as a group as opposed to over this forum.
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I don't have a problem with peaceful protests. Hell, I protested the Nam war. But I didn't do while I was on stage paying music. I didn't do it when I was on the job as a mechanic or a service manager. Why should they be allowed to do it on the clock? Plus, a nazi or isis flag doesn't mean they won;t be peaceful.
 
Greg T. said:
I don't have a problem with peaceful protests. Hell, I protested the Nam war. But I didn't do while I was on stage paying music. I didn't do it when I was on the job as a mechanic or a service manager. Why should they be allowed to do it on the clock? Plus, a nazi or isis flag doesn't mean they won;t be peaceful.
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Did you do it while you were filming your gay porn? lolz j/k :Laugh:

As far as the Nam protests (which I don't blame you one bit for protesting)..........I don't believe it Greg......I've seen your tie-dye........the long hair..........etc. Again, j/k... :Laugh:
 
Greg T. said:
You have to look at the big picture. These guys are getting paid to show up and work, just like anyone else. You don't care if they have something to say about the flag. I get that. But where does it end? Would you be okay with paying for a ticket and watching them carry a nazi flag around while the players salute? How about having them bow for the ISIS flag as it passes by? Maybe a having a few players pray to satan after each touch down? I'm simply saying that, even tho they have the right to speak, doesn't mean they have a right to be heard. They can protest and piss into the wind if they want to on their own time. Which, BTW, not one fucking one of them did, which tells me they are not even genuine in their display.
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The problem is there now seems to be an expectation by many people that athletes have vocal opinions, during work or not.

Just look at the interview with Tiger and how people were so upset that he wasn't on the protest trump bandwagon.


The numbers of those people are getting just as large as the numbers of people who don't want to see or hear it.
 
Greg T. said:
I don't have a problem with peaceful protests. Hell, I protested the Nam war. But I didn't do while I was on stage paying music. I didn't do it when I was on the job as a mechanic or a service manager. Why should they be allowed to do it on the clock? Plus, a nazi or isis flag doesn't mean they won;t be peaceful.
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Lol guess you were never a fan of Rage against the Machine
 
THATS A GOOD IDEA 9. I THINK EVEN THE OWNERS, MOST ANYWAY, WOULD HAVE BEEN ON BOARD WITH THAT. PROTESTING ONCE AND MENTIONING AN ORGINIZATION DURING AFTER GAME INTERVIEWS TO SUPPORT HIS CAUSE. I BET MOST OF THE OWNERS MAY HAVE BEEN WILLING TO PUT BANNERS UP SOMEWHERE IN THE STADIUMS WITH THE ORGINIZATIONS NAME ON IT, AND PAID FOR IT. BUT I THINK THAT SHIP HAS SAILED NOW.
 
My thing is this maybe we all should take a knee, not just for his cause, but because this country that everybody “loves” has turned it’s back on veterans. Instead of spending your energy on the NFL, spend it on the USA and it’s lack of respect for veterans.

Greg T. said:
I marvel at the brilliance of our constitution. I believe everyone has the right to think freely, free speech and the right to express their views. However, the constitution does NOT guaranty the right to be heard, or the right to a platform and captive audience. He can protest until his fucking dick falls off for all I give a shit.... on his own time because the people who bought tickets to those games and other events did NOT lay out money to watch his crying little bitch ass disrespect our American Flag.
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The NFLPA is biting them in the ass. The problem is we have put athletes and movie stars on a petistol and made them role models. The NFLPA makes them do community service and find causes close to them. Well Kap just so happens to stand for something that wasn’t in line with the NFL

Might he have done it anyway, maybe but by being put in a role model position you have guaranteed it.

WAMO said:
I THOUGHT KAEPERNICK WAS PAID, GOOD MONEY, TO BE A QUARTERBACK. NOT A SPOKEPERSON FOR WHATEVER HIS CAUSE IS. AS LONG AS HE HAD ON A SAN FRAN JERSEY, OR ANY FUTURE JERSEY, HE IS A QUARTERBACK. WHEN HE PUTS ON HIS STREET CLOTHES, THEN HE IS AN INDIVIDUAL AND CAN SPEAK HIS MIND. I DO THINK THE NFL SHOULD STAY OUT OF IT THOUGH. THE TEAM OWNER SHOULD HAVE THE LAST SAY IN WHAT TAKES PLACE WITH THEIR TEAM. I TOO STAND FOR THE ANTHEM AND THINK ALL SHOULD. SOMETIMES BEING A SHEEP IS A GOOD THING FOR ALL. NO 9, THATS NOT WHAT I MEAN!!!
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NOR WAS IT INLINE WITH THE NFLPA. KAP SLAPPED THEM IN THE FACE JUST AS HARD. THEY SCRAMBLED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO SAVE HIS ASS. THEY KNOW HE IS WRONG, THEY JUST HAVE TO TAKE HIS SIDE.
 
The NFL has been on a Sh*t List of sort for a long time. Well before this CK kneeling fiasco. The so called "overly aggressiveness and violence" has been questioned for years due to lifetime injuries sustained while playing the game. Permanent brain damage, psychological issues, crippling arthritis, etc.

See https://judiciary.house.gov/_files/hearings/printers/111th/111-82_53092.PDF

I don't watch pro football much and couldn't care less for CK. Everyone needs to realize that this is just a publicity stunt for ratings and/or keeping the country divided. A brand new low. The press preaches it to the sheeple and corporations love it! If we try to ignore it- they step up the pressure- via NIKE! You'll pay attention now!

Don't pay attention. Ignore the hype. Life will be less stressful. Let the protesters protest away. Turn your head.

I'm going for a walk with the dog.
 
AGAIN, WELL SAID REV. CK WAS LOSING HIS JOB AND TRIED TO FIND A WAY TO BE RELEVANT AGAIN. PERIOD!!! WHAT KIND OF DOG
 
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